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    I read this thread earlier in the week and refrained from replying but after Gatekeepers last post I felt obliged to reply in agreement with him... In fact the Father/Son example was exactly what came to mind.

    In the past this is typically where the Moderator would step in and reiterate that Couples resorts are intended for Couples in Love... I am curious as to why that hasn't occurred yet but it still may as this is not that long or old of a post yet.

    I saw where cinnyvs claimed there is no rule. That may be true in that there is no physical description of what is deemed a couple but I tend to believe that is due to the Couples Brand not wanting to ostracize any type of couple in any way, same-sex, age differences, etc. The FAQ page does in fact say, "The Couples Resorts brand exists to promote romantic one-on-one experiences for couples looking to reignite their passion in an idyllic, amorous island setting." Pair that with the name being Couples and one would think this should not have to be policed as often as it seems.

    I can't say that I don't "get" where the OP is coming from... I mean, I would love to share the most beautiful place I have visited with my family members and friends. But I also understand that most rules, written or implied, exist for a reason... If we bend the intent of the Couples vacation experience for these 2 then where does the line get drawn? What if another Parent/Child combo showed up a few weeks later and WAS a disruption? I have no doubt that Couples would handle it appropriately but what about the guests that had their vacation impacted by them? Bottom line, this shouldn't have to be a potential concern... I am sure this will draw attention from some and I respect your opinions! I am not blind to the fact that singles visit the resorts frequently under the guise of weddings or friend trips and they have never once impacted my trip... I just don't think it should be openly accepted on the MB, in essence becoming an unofficial policy change... Again, I want to reiterate that I am sure the OP and her mother would be of no concern to anyone! I am just afraid of the slippery slope that follows... Reminds me of the idea to "rent" the palapas as a means to mitigate the 4 AM reservations with a towel and a magazine. One of the biggest draws to Couples is that everyone is treated equally and fairly, there is no "package/wrist band" segregation like some other resorts. If they start knowingly allowing guests other than "Couples" to visit how long until it is a singles resort and the magic is gone?

    I'll leave you with a quote from the Couples website on the "About Us" page, "Without distraction, crowds, children or schedules, our couples only philosophy translates into pure romance from the moment you arrive."

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    I think some of you need to get a grip on yourselves. All the OP asked was would she be able to go if father was unable to. Insurance does not cover "cant make it or changed my mind".

    Secondly, how are two adult women going to interfere with the enjoyment of any other couple there. We have been to Couples three times and have seen many variations of "couples" from a group of four older ladies, to younger gay ladies, gay male couples and one couple of non gay male widowers. Last January a mother daughter couple from the Ukraine and and a family of six from Sweden mom/dad, two adult daughters and it appeared to be an aunt and uncle who all used the au natural beach. I think couples holds between 600 to 700 guests when full. Don't think anyones vacation was spoiled because they were there or if anyone even noticed. I dont think the flood gates to hell are going to open up if the OP were to visit Couples with her mother.

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    So my wife can't go, but my friend can. He's a good guy, and he won't be out of line. It would be just like if we were a same sex couple I'm sure. Just to clarify this isn't against the OP for asking a question, it's against the "sure it's fine who cares!" People.

  4. #29

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Duderino View Post
    So my wife can't go, but my friend can. He's a good guy, and he won't be out of line. It would be just like if we were a same sex couple I'm sure. Just to clarify this isn't against the OP for asking a question, it's against the "sure it's fine who cares!" People.
    Yup...what begins as an exception, always becomes the norm.
    Last edited by Gatekeeper; May 20th, 2017 at 06:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Duderino View Post
    So my wife can't go, but my friend can. He's a good guy, and he won't be out of line. It would be just like if we were a same sex couple I'm sure. Just to clarify this isn't against the OP for asking a question, it's against the "sure it's fine who cares!" People.
    I don't think this is a question for the other couples, it's more of a question for you and your friend if you guys would be comfortable around an entire resort of couples. If you would be, by all means schedule the trip. I know you were being hypothetical but it really doesn't matter to probably 95% of the people there. And for the person who said why hasn't a moderator stepped in on this topic, it's because Couples Resorts cares about double occupancy and following some basic conduct rules around the resort. If you do that, it won't be an inconvenience to other guests and Couples will get their money.

    My wife and I were at a small B&B type hotel in Key West where everyone staying there were couples of some sort (m/m, m/f, etc.). There were two couples who happened to be overt swingers who made things very uncomfortable at the pool and since our room shared a wall, we had quite a few noises coming through the wall when we were trying to sleep. I would have much rather had a father/son, mother/daughter or even two 30-something friends staying in that room instead of the "couples" that we did have. Point is, even someone who is part of a couple can make your vacation uncomfortable so what does it matter what the makeup of the couples are that are staying at the resort.

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    Without children or stress, our couples only philosophy translates into pure romance from the moment you arrive. Some call it quality time. Others call it intimacy. This is from the Couples website.

    The resort is branded for couples in love. The OP and her mother will probably not even be noticed but that doesn't mean the next 2, then 4 then 6 etc. family vacationers won't be. I agree with one of the previous posters who said it is a slippery slope. There are hundreds of resorts out there. Pick one of them. Couples who want to experience an adult only, child free vacation that caters to romance have a very limited picks of resorts.
    The one thing that makes the resorts special to me is it caters to couples in love. The intention of the resort couldn't be any clearer. The name of the resort is not Families, Siblings or Friends.

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    Thank you Cathy Joe, well said!

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    Until Mr Issa takes measures to strictly enforce a "only couples who are in love are allowed on premises" rule at his resorts people should get down off their high horse and spend their vacation minding their own business. Nowhere on the Couples website is there an explicit rule forbidding people who are not "couples in love" from booking. While I agree that most people would not patronize a resort like Couples as singles technically there is nowhere that it says that it is forbidden. We as guests do not make the rules. I have a feeling that a lot of the people who are so up in arms about this are the same people who swear that their entire vacation was ruined because somebody violated the dress code at dinner.

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    Angel,

    If you and Mom could somehow arrange to come down with a wedding party, I think the problem would be solved. Obviously, two women ages 50 and 72, quietly relaxing and minding their own business, will wreak havoc on the "romantic vibe" of the resort and perhaps cause long term damage to other couples' marriages. Whereas if you come with a group of 20-30 people and take over the pool, the catamaran cruise, and Otaheiti, all's good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathy_Joe View Post
    Without children or stress, our couples only philosophy translates into pure romance from the moment you arrive. Some call it quality time. Others call it intimacy. This is from the Couples website.

    The resort is branded for couples in love. The OP and her mother will probably not even be noticed but that doesn't mean the next 2, then 4 then 6 etc. family vacationers won't be. I agree with one of the previous posters who said it is a slippery slope. There are hundreds of resorts out there. Pick one of them. Couples who want to experience an adult only, child free vacation that caters to romance have a very limited picks of resorts.
    The one thing that makes the resorts special to me is it caters to couples in love. The intention of the resort couldn't be any clearer. The name of the resort is not Families, Siblings or Friends.
    So if the entire resort was well-intentioned, respectful, mother-daughter, father-son, best friend couples, you can't have a romantic time with your spouse??? I'm sorry but all three "alternate" couples I just mentioned probably are in a more intimate relationship than half the married couples out there in the world. Are they going to be smooching in the hammocks? No, but there's nothing in the brochure that says you have to be to have a nice couples vacation.

    Maybe Couples Resorts can come up with a policy that every hour, they ring a bell and all of the couples have to kiss so they can keep the romantic vibe going and we can keep the riff-raff faking couples out of the resort

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    EricW pretty much took the words right out of my mouth. We love Couples Swept Away for many reasons but we noticed several non-couple groups there for weddings, family vacations, etc. We only noticed them because of comments and threads just like this. What's really funny is the family that we ran into was extremely friendly. The older brother and sister shared a room...which I found odd...but they were pleasant and friendly. The cousins we talked to that were there for a wedding loudly stated they hoped to bring their future partners there some day. Want to know what reduced our romantic experience? The raunchy newlyweds that were in the hot tub and were so intoxicated they thought everyone wanted to witness their soft porn show. Or the couple from Georgia that thought it fitting to blast their Jimmy Buffet albums from their large stereo all over the beach, even when they weren't at their chairs. The couple in the room next to us who seemed to have a serious loud argument problem at 2:00 AM every other morning wasn't fun either. None of these items ruined our vacation and obviously didn't stop us from returning but until Couples focuses more on creating and maintaining that romantic environment...the original poster should know that yes, you can certainly do what you are inquiring about and no one will notice. I'm not here to recite or reiterate what Couples sets out to do but I will tell you that they are far from perfect in their goals and the zero management presence at the resort doesn't help. You can't put rules in place when NOTHING is done to enforce those. Kind of like the tipping. It happens. Service is better because of it. Leaving a gift is no different than a cash tip. We follow rules but that doesn't mean that some of them are pointless.

  12. #37

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    Quote Originally Posted by donjohnson View Post
    Maybe Couples Resorts can come up with a policy that every hour, they ring a bell and all of the couples have to kiss so they can keep the romantic vibe going and we can keep the riff-raff faking couples out of the resort
    That sounds like something a certain "H" resort down the beach would do :P

    I think that so long as Couples keeps the resorts set up for couples (no suites, no connecting rooms, etc) and designs activities around romantic couples (no wet t-shirt contests, drinking contests, rock/rap music during dinner, or other things that would appeal more to groups of singles) then I think the "vibe" at couples is going to be preserved. Actual couples will far outnumber non-romantic pairs. But the wonderful staff, grounds, and atmosphere of Couples is gonna appeal to folks no matter what, hence the weddings and recurring groups. But how can they realistically and fairly curate the bookings? Not every couple is married. Couples doesn't discriminate against homosexuals (and how can they really know the gender beforehand anyway?). So other than not allowing big blocks of rooms to be booked by a single entity (which is probably resort suicide since that would cut out travel agents) what can they do?

    It is up to US, the patrons, to maintain the romantic vibe by leading by example. If we want a respectful, relaxing, Jamaican vacation then we have to set the tone, keep management engaged, and set an example to others who might think Couples is more like a spring break resort or a Carnival cruise :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by donjohnson View Post
    So if the entire resort was well-intentioned, respectful, mother-daughter, father-son, best friend couples, you can't have a romantic time with your spouse??? I'm sorry but all three "alternate" couples I just mentioned probably are in a more intimate relationship than half the married couples out there in the world. Are they going to be smooching in the hammocks? No, but there's nothing in the brochure that says you have to be to have a nice couples vacation.

    Maybe Couples Resorts can come up with a policy that every hour, they ring a bell and all of the couples have to kiss so they can keep the romantic vibe going and we can keep the riff-raff faking couples out of the resort
    There are plenty of "non-couples" resorts to choose from, why do you feel it's your right to intrude on others who are looking for a couples-only resort? And who are you to judge the intimacy level of other couples? I'm sorry, but the slippery slope argument definitely applies here.

  14. #39

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    There is another resort chain owned by the Issa family that is very similar, just not Couples oriented. If you look at their website the resorts look similar to a Couples resort.

    Maybe these mother daughter, father son, best buddies couples should look at the Idle Awhile Resorts. I would expect the same quality stay at any of these resorts.

    Or am I going to get into trouble for mentioning a resort other than Couples? If so, sorry Michelle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donjohnson View Post
    So if the entire resort was well-intentioned, respectful, mother-daughter, father-son, best friend couples, you can't have a romantic time with your spouse??? I'm sorry but all three "alternate" couples I just mentioned probably are in a more intimate relationship than half the married couples out there in the world. Are they going to be smooching in the hammocks? No, but there's nothing in the brochure that says you have to be to have a nice couples vacation.

    Maybe Couples Resorts can come up with a policy that every hour, they ring a bell and all of the couples have to kiss so they can keep the romantic vibe going and we can keep the riff-raff faking couples out of the resort
    Play by the rules or GTFO. It's literally called couples. It's not called, moms and sons, single guys and girls, dads and daughters, besties, or anything else. A friend of mine would love to go to couples, and you know what? I'm not bringing him, I'm bringing my wife.

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    If we came across a few mother/daughter or sister/sister or father/son "couples" I first would assume it was family traveling together. Then if observing it wasn't, I would think it curious that family members would travel to a place where romance is a theme, without their spouses or lovers. It wouldn't take away or affect our experience in the least to have a few people seem out of place. However, if 3 groups of 30 people came in and were rowdy with the women hanging with the women and the men hanging with the men, that would disrupt the romantic vibe which we are promised. Heck, some of the groups of 10 already do that.

    So while I agree that the resort isn't for mother/daughter couples, as long as there aren't too many of these "couples" while we are visiting, its really not a big deal to us.

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    If the rules are not going to be abided by or enforced why bother going to the trouble of printing them. In fact to print rules and descriptions of your business, then to not deliver on that narrative is simply deceptive advertising. Right now a somewhere a couple is deciding to head to Couples based on what they believe will be a couples only experience, (no singles, no families, no best friends, etc), and they will spend very hard earned money on this vacation...they deserve to find the resort as described in the advertising.

    Say what you do...do what you say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Duderino View Post
    Play by the rules or GTFO. It's literally called couples. It's not called, moms and sons, single guys and girls, dads and daughters, besties, or anything else. A friend of mine would love to go to couples, and you know what? I'm not bringing him, I'm bringing my wife.
    Wow, you're really fired up about this...based on your response, let me ask you a serious question...do you feel that people who are dating should be allowed to go to one of the Couples Resorts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by donjohnson View Post
    Wow, you're really fired up about this...based on your response, let me ask you a serious question...do you feel that people who are dating should be allowed to go to one of the Couples Resorts?
    That is exactly the point. Dating, one would assume are a romantically involved couple. No one has spoke against any romantically involved couples, including gay couples on both sides of the issue. Mom, daughter, besties, or other similar, are not romantically involved. While i agree one couple would not be a problem, it is really no different than a couple coming to the nude part of the resort and keeping the bottoms on. It would not ruin my vacation, but its not what the rules intend to have happen. As stated above, enough resorts are available for all the various combinations, Couples doesn't have to be one of them.

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    It's called COUPLES. Duh..... Why the senseless debate?

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    Holy Snikees !! Nice thread angeleyes ! I haven't enjoyed a thread so much since the infamous, " Will it be cool if my husband wears his jean shorts to Feathers ? " thread. sylvia

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